I remember when I was 24 years
old I was a militant lesbian activist,
and one of my best friends was a politically
active, flamboyant gay man named Jerry.
We often talked about ways to make
the world more accepting of homosexuality.
We would go to book readings by gay
and lesbian authors; we would go to
art exhibits by gay and lesbian artists.
Both of us being homosexuals is what
formed the foundation of our friendship.
Jerry was terrified of contracting
AIDS, so he was in regular contact
with volunteers from the AIDS hotline.
He wanted to make sure that he wasn’t
engaging in any behavior that would
put him at risk for contracting HIV.
One summer, Jerry went to Mexico for
a few weeks. He got sick with what
he assumed was an intestinal parasite.
When he went to the doctor, the doctor
told Jerry that he had full-blown
AIDS and probably had about 3 months
to live.
Jerry was shocked by the news. He
had been practicing so-called safe
sex, so something like this was not
supposed to happen. I saw Jerry for
the last time a few days before he
died. He was angry and bitter at everyone
and everything. I felt terrible that
I didn’t have anything to say
to him that would encourage him or
give him hope. I couldn’t do
anything more than say good-bye to
my friend. It was an awful feeling.
I looked at Jerry and saw his life
as meaningless. And I saw my life
as meaningless. I couldn’t offer
Jerry any hope, because I didn’t
have any hope.
I grew up in a family where there
wasn’t any hope that life was
good - there was no confidence that
our lives had meaning, or that there
was purpose for our being here on
earth.
I was very distant from my parents
when I was growing up. My dad spent
all of his time sitting in a chair
reading the newspaper and doing crossword
puzzles. My mom was a rage-aholic.
She screamed and yelled constantly
about anything and everything. I was
terrified of my mother, but at the
same time I really wanted love and
affirmation from her. I did great
in school. I was a great athlete.
But nothing I did seemed to make my
mom like me.
My younger sister was the extroverted,
cute daughter. It seemed like it was
easier for my parents to love her
and give her attention than it was
for them to love and give attention
to me. I grew up feeling unlovable.
When I was at home, I spent most of
my time alone in my room. I thought,
surely there has to be more to life
than this.
But when I was in high school, I
had a best friend. We were together
all the time. For the first time in
my life I felt loved and appreciated
for who I was. It was great. Suddenly
my life was completely transformed.
It was vibrant and exciting, like
in the Wizard of Oz when everything
goes from black and white to Technicolor.
My life finally had meaning.
So I didn’t care when my mom
sat me down and told me that she and
my dad were getting a divorce. What
did I care? They had been fighting
for as long as I could remember.
But I did care when my mom sat me
down and asked me if my friend and
I were having a homosexual relationship.
I was devastated. How could my mom
think that of me? I ran out of the
room and locked myself in the bathroom.
But later that night when I was crying
in my room, I had to admit to myself
that deep down inside I wished we
were having a homosexual relationship
- because then she would never leave
me, and I would always feel the way
I did then.
After high school, I went to college
at the University of California at
Irvine. I majored in English. I wanted
to be a writer. I got good grades;
I was president of the pledge class
of my sorority; I was editor-in-chief
of the yearbook my freshman year,
yet I still felt empty and unfulfilled.
I thought, there’s got to be
more to life than this. So I went
to a therapist to find out what was
wrong with me. After a few appointments,
the therapist said, “Yvette,
there’s nothing wrong with you.
You just expect too much from life.
You have to learn to lower your expectations.”
I thought, how on earth am I supposed
to do that?
But my expectations were lowered
for me when my mom told me that she
wasn’t going to pay for my college
education.
Now I had to find a job so I could
pay my way through college. I went
to the job board at UCI and found
a job working at a hotel in Laguna
Beach. What I didn’t know was
that Laguna Beach had a large gay
and lesbian population. About 70%
of the clientele of the hotel I was
working at was gay. This was my first
contact with the gay community.
I became good friends with one of
my co-workers who was a gay man named
Ed. By this time I had a new best
friend that I was spending all of
my time with. Ed said about my new
best-friend and me, “You have
an implicit homosexual relationship.”
I said, “Give me a break, Ed.
Just because you’re gay doesn’t
mean that everyone is gay.”
Still, I didn’t have the same
intense connection with the guys I
had dated that I had with my best-friend.
I didn’t care if a guy called
me again or not.
My dissatisfaction with life was
starting to get to me. I needed a
change, so I applied for the University
of California’s Education Abroad
Program at the University of Delhi
in India so I could study Hinduism
and Buddhism for a year. I thought
that maybe I could find some meaning
to life.
When we got to India, we went up
to the Himalayas to learn Hindi. While
I was there, I became good friends
with my Hindi teacher. After several
months, at her initiation, the relationship
became physical. The next day I was
horrified by what I had done. This
couldn’t be who I was. I spent
the day walking through the foothills
of the Himalayas. From where I was,
I could see the majestic snow-covered
peaks up above and a tiny ribbon of
water below that was the Jammu River.
I felt so small and insignificant
in comparison. But at the same time,
I was consumed with inner turmoil.
I didn’t want to identify myself
as a lesbian. But I was feeling loved
and appreciated by this woman and
I couldn’t walk away from that.
Somehow I had to reconcile the fact
that I thought homosexuality was wrong
with the fact that I was getting my
emotional needs met through a homosexual
relationship.
I finally decided that the only reason
I thought homosexuality was wrong
was because that was what my oppressive,
controlling Judeo-Christian culture
had taught me. So I determined that
once I got back to California, I would
fight the oppressor. And in my mind,
the oppressor was society.
When I got back to California, the
first person I got in touch with was
my old friend Ed. I said, “Guess
what I learned about myself while
I was in India. I’m lesbian.”
Ed said, “No, you’re not.
Whatever you do, don’t go down
that road. You’ll regret it.
And you’ll go to hell.”
I said, “First of all, I don’t
believe in hell. And second of all,
you’re gay! How can you tell
me not to be? If you were really my
friend, you would tell me where I
can go to start meeting people.”
And that’s what I did. I started
meeting people. I went to a lesbian
bar in Long Beach, and met someone
right away. We started spending all
of our time together - as was my pattern.
After awhile, my mom started getting
suspicious. She said, “Are you
having a lesbian relationship?”
I told her I was. She said, “You
need extensive psychological help.”
I said, “Oh really? That’s
not what the American Psychiatric
Association says. They removed homosexuality
from the Diagnostic and Statistical
Manual back in 1973.” My mom
said, “Do what you want, but
not in this house.”
So I moved in with this woman. Everything
was great for awhile. But it wasn’t
long before we became jealous, obsessive
and possessive. She knew exactly how
far it was for me to go from our house
to work and back, so she would check
the odometer on my car to make sure
I had come directly home. One day
our relationship had become so dysfunctional
because we expected each other to
meet our every emotional need that
she became violent with me. She ended
up ripping the phone out of the wall
and throwing it at me, barely missing
my head. I thought, what have I gotten
myself into? But I couldn’t
leave. She was beautiful and popular,
and I wasn’t. I needed to be
around someone like that.
As my relationship got worse, I became
more militant I my gay activism. I
was working for a law firm in downtown
L.A. I wore a pink triangle to work
every day so everyone would know I
was gay. I was out and I was proud.
Closeted homosexuals would confess
their fears to me, and I would say,
“Every time you don’t
stand up for who you are, you oppress
not only yourself but every other
person involved in homosexuality.”
I joined GLAAD, the Gay and Lesbian
Alliance Against Defamation. I went
to every Gay and Lesbian Pride Parade
in southern California, and I fought
with the Christians who would carry
their 1 Corinthians 6:9 signs saying
how homosexuals would not inherit
the kingdom of God. And every year,
I would try to pick a fight with them.
I would go up to them and say, “If
you don’t like it, leave. No
one invited you. And guess what? If
you’re going to be in heaven,
then I have no desire to go there.”
Every time I argued with those Christians,
I could get at least one of them to
yell at me; and when I did, I knew
that I had won.
But one Saturday, some friends and
I were going out to a lesbian bar
in Long Beach. From a distance, I
could see a man and a woman handing
out fliers. I thought maybe there
was new restaurant or shop opening.
As I got closer, I could hear them
talking and I knew that they were
Christians. I was instantly irritated
and started walking straight toward
them. My friends said, “Just
ignore them. Who cares what they have
to say?” But I went up to them
and said, “Don’t you have
anything better to do on a Saturday
night than to stand here and harass
us?” The man said, “I
am so sorry. I don’t mean to
offend you. You can take this tract
and read it, or you can throw it away.
It’s up to you. But I just came
here to tell you how much Jesus loves
you.” When he said that, I felt
about 2 inches tall. I thought, what’s
wrong with me? This guy isn’t
the mean one, I am. It didn’t
stop me from going into the bar that
night. But it did begin to challenge
my beliefs about Christians.
Around that time, I ended a 3-year
relationship and moved in with Ed
and another gay man named Mike. Doors
were opening for me in the publishing
world, and I thought my ship had finally
come in - I was going to be a writer.
But even as things were looping up
in terms of my career, many of my
friends were sick and dying of AIDS.
Ed and Mike both had full-blown AIDS.
They were in and out of the hospital
with things like cryptosporidium,
Kaposi’s Sarcoma and pneumocystic
pneumonia. There were times when I
was functioning as their nurse maid.
I would help them change their IV
bags. I would cook for them. Then
eventually they would bounce back
and we would be back in the bars and
partying again. I couldn’t help
but think, is this what life is all
about? There’s got to be more
to life than this.
Around this time, my boss at the
law firm promoted me to a new position.
It sounded great, until I learned
that I would be leading a new department
with a young man named Jeff who was
a notorious Christian.
My friend Frank had worked with Jeff
in a different department, and told
me that Jeff was always giving him
Bible tracts to read, and inviting
him to lunch to talk about God. Frank
said, “All I want to do in the
morning is to come in and read the
sports page. I’m sitting there
reading, and Jeff comes in and says,
‘Hey Frank, did you read that
tract I gave you?’” I
laughed and said, “Better you
than me.” Now I was going to
be working with Jeff, and I knew I
didn’t want to hear about Jesus.
On the first day we worked together,
I walked in and Jeff had 3x5 index
cards with scriptures written on them
posted all over his office space.
I thought, this can’t be happening
to me. This is a nightmare. Jeff said,
“Hi Yvette, what did you do
this weekend?” I knew he was
just trying to be friendly and strike
up a conversation. But I wanted him
to know that I didn’t want to
be his friend, so I said, “I’m
not telling you what I did this weekend.
It’s none of your business.”
I thought for sure that would shut
him up. I was wrong. He said, “Well,
a group of us went to the beach this
weekend and invited people to our
church.” I said, “Really?
You’ll have to tell me what
beach you went to, so I know never
to go there.”
I thought my responses to Jeff made
it perfectly clear that I was not
interested in hearing about Jesus.
But Jeff talked about God constantly.
He was always saying God this and
God that, the Bible says this and
the Bible says that. Jeff would even
go so far as to tell me what God was
doing in his life. Sometimes I found
it interesting, and sometimes I would
think - I didn’t know the Bible
said practical things about how to
live life. But I never expressed any
of those thoughts to Jeff.
Jeff and I would get into debates
on things like premarital sex and
abortion - never homosexuality - and
Jeff would always use the Bible to
support his points. I said, “I
don’t believe the Bible, and
I don’t care what it says.”
Jeff said, “It doesn’t
matter if you believe the Bible or
not, it’s true.” This
exasperated me. Whatever Jeff believed
he could back up by quoting the Bible.
Whatever I believed, I couldn’t
back up at all. I would go home at
night and look over my books on eastern
mysticism. I was getting more and
more involved in Native American mysticism
and occult activities, but I couldn’t
give one practical answer for daily
living, and Jeff could.
What’s more, even though I
was always mean to Jeff, every time
he thought he had offended me, he
would apologize. I never apologized
to him, and I offended him all the
time. I couldn’t understand
why he was nice to me and exhibited
so much humility toward me. I hated
it. It made me feel mean and nasty.
I thought, I don’t know how
much more of this I can take. I tried
to find another job so I could get
away from Jeff, but nothing worked
out.
One day, while Jeff was in Colorado
for his father’s funeral, I
reported him to our boss for proselytizing
at work. I was trying to get him fired.
She said, “You need to tell
Jeff that you appreciate his zeal,
but that you don’t share his
beliefs and that you would appreciate
it if he didn’t talk to you
about God anymore.”
I intended to confront Jeff. I wanted
to confront Jeff. But for some reason,
I couldn’t bring myself to do
it. Instead, I just tried to ignore
him. I wouldn’t even talk to
him about work-related issues. One
morning Jeff came to work, put a cup
down on my desk and said, “Hey
Yvette, I stopped on my way to work
and bought you a cappuccino.”
I couldn’t believe it. Most
people wouldn’t get off the
freeway in L.A. in the middle of rush
hour traffic for a friend, let alone
an enemy. I almost started crying
out of frustration. I thought, how
can this guy continue to be nice to
me when I am so mean to him? Romans
2:4 says that the kindness of the
Lord leads to repentance. There is
no defense for genuine love and kindness
with no strings attached.
I wanted to know more about Jesus,
but I was afraid to express any interest
to Jeff. I suspected that he would
pressure me to go to church. Despite
my fears, I ventured to ask Jeff a
question about God. I said, “What’s
the deal with the 10 commandments?”
Jeff knew that Christians had bombarded
me with unsolicited rantings about
sin, so he said, “God loves
us so much that He has given us the
guidelines that will lead us to life.”
I believed, up until that point, that
God was mean and oppressive. He gave
us commandments in order to amplify
His sovereign rule over us, I thought.
But that God loved me and wanted what
was best for me was a foreign concept.
I was starting to believe that Jesus
may be the hope I was looking for,
but I didn’t want to go to church.
I knew what Christians were like;
I knew they would judge me and reject
me. I didn’t want to put myself
in that situation. Jeff said, “You
can’t be a Christian on your
own. The enemy will easily pick you
off if you’re separated from
the flock.”
So after working with Jeff 8 hours
a day, 5 days a week for 2 years,
and hearing him talk about God every
day, I finally went to church. When
I stepped inside I could feel the
presence of God so strongly that I
couldn’t even stand up during
worship. I just sat there with my
head in my hands.
After church, the girl sitting next
to me asked me what I was going to
do about Jesus. I said, “What
am I supposed to do?” She said,
“Jesus took all of our sins
upon Himself and paid the price of
death so we can have everlasting life.
You need to repent of your sins and
accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.”
I said, “Okay.” And that’s
what I did. It was as if a huge weight
was lifted off my shoulders. I experienced
joy and peace for the first time in
my life. But most of all I experienced
the thrill of hope - the assurance
that life did have meaning, that there
was a purpose for my life.
Later Jeff told me that there were
many times when he wanted to ignore
me or to make a rude comment back
to me, and he would sense the Holy
Spirit saying to him, “Is that
the way I treated you when you were
lost?”
Once I became a Christian, other
Christians from work began coming
out of the woodwork. They were intimidated
by me when I was a militant gay activist,
and didn’t want to have anything
to do with me. Jeff asked several
of our Christian co-workers who were
women to invite me to lunch. He thought
I would relate better to a woman than
I would to a man. None of them uttered
a word to me.
My old friends wanted nothing to
do with me now that I was a Christian.
One of my friends said, “I knew
you were malleable, but I didn’t
know you were that malleable.”
My best-friend said, “As a
Jew, you offend my spirit. There is
no reason for us to ever get together
again, or even to talk over the phone.”
A lesbian couple who had been friends
of mine for years wouldn’t even
let me in their house once they heard
I had become a Christian.
As a new Christian, I found myself
in the same position I had been in
a few years before when I had nothing
to say to my friend Jerry who was
dying of AIDS. Now my friend Ed was
very sick with AIDS and had about
a year to live. But this time, instead
of having nothing to say, I could
offer Ed hope - the hope of everlasting
life - that the end of his life could
be the beginning of something great.
I couldn’t wait to see him.
Ed and I were going to meet for dinner
in the gay part of town in West Hollywood.
I prayed for several days before we
got together that Ed and everyone
in West Hollywood would be able to
see Jesus in me.
We ate dinner then went to a coffee
house where we could talk. We went
into a back room and I started telling
Ed all the details about what had
happened to me, and how I came to
know that Jesus was God. As I was
talking, a homeless woman, who looked
like she had been living on the streets
for several years, made her way to
the back room of the coffee house
where Ed and I were sitting. She walked
up to us, pointed at me and screamed,
“I hate you! I hate you! I hate
you!” for probably a full minute.
Finally, the manager came and made
her leave. Everyone was staring at
us. Ed said, “What was that
all about?” I said, “She
probably saw Jesus in me.” And
I told him how I had been praying
all week that Jesus would be visible
in my life. That opened up a very
deep and very fruitful conversation.
We talked about God a few more time
after that, then Ed gave His life
to Jesus. A year later, he died. But
a few months before he died, he said,
“I appreciate God’s love
and mercy so much. And soon I’ll
get to see Jesus face-to-face. There’s
nothing greater than that. But you
get to stay here and see what it means
to overcome, and learn how to walk
by faith, and I’ll never get
to experience that.”
Ed was right. I overcame
lesbianism, and now I have
a great husband and two wonderful
daughters. I know what it means to
walk by faith and trust the Lord with
my life. But by far the greatest thing
of all is to see people come to know
the Lord and knowing that one day
we will all be in heaven together.
Because when all is said and done,
the only thing we can take with us
is other people.
So, as someone who was difficult
to reach out to and difficult to share
the gospel with, I beg you not to
grow weary in doing good and reaching
out to the people around you. Because
in due time you will reap, and the
people you reach will be eternally
grateful.
Yvette Schneider is a Homemaker,
Author and Speaker To contact her
- livinginvictory@hotmail.com
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